I am sure the conversation is going to a bit one side for this tread, but I still want to get some opinions from people who have used their NC(rooted) and possible other tabs. The Zt-180 Epad is already rooted and running 2.2. It is a year and half old and they guy wants to sell it for $125 from $150. I am a believer that you get quality for the $ but is there going to be a big disparity in the quality of the two machines in aspects of operation, use, longevity and such. I am not set on either path, just looking for a cheaper option to tinker with before I move on to a higher priced model. And yes the ebay option is still on the mind, if nothing transpires in the next couple of days. I just really like the negotiation side of CL and one-one buying. Thanks again.