first.. i downloaded this file... the one the is on the first page of this thread.. 8065_root.zip >>>>> http://www.mediafire.com/download/il.../8065_root.zip.. I followed the instructions.. move the 3 files to the sd card and renamed it as such and such so I power it down.. go to recovery and what happens next is as what Ive posted earlier... But maybe Im not waiting long enough.. I will try what tpaine suggested.. Thanks again for the suggestion i hold volume- + power. Then its the blue screen with install from ext. I choose that then I go to another screen I see coby_amlogic fake recovery zip.. and I install that.. I see that green robot.. I am now in the cwm -based recovery v220.127.116.11 7065 by vampirefo.. there are seven choices... -reboot system now -install zip from sdcard -wipe data/factory reset -wipe cache partition -backup and restore -mounts and storage - advanced I chose the install zip from sd card 4 choices again -choose zip from sd card -app sd card update -toggle sign verification -togleg script asserts -go back=== I chose zip from sd card and navigate to root coby zip.. I am attaching a pic of the last step I did.. also I have another question.. Am I using the correct files. Im seeing 7065.. but its the same file that I got from mediafire that is on the first post......Im so sorry If Im being such a nuisance.. I just really need this fix.. my son uses this tablet to play some of his games..and its only been with me for 3 months so I hate to waste it..thanks so much again..