How to Transfer to Micro SD

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    Got the LePan ii and realize it has an 8gb sd inside. I also installed a 32gb sandisk in the unit. In settings, storage I see sdcard2 with 29.71gb of storage space. But, whenever I want to transfer apps etc to the sd card from the settings-applications it says to transfer to sd card (and transfers to the 8gb card). Nothing ever goes to the second card. Is there a trick to getting the Le Pan II to not only recognize the second card but be able to use it.

    Thanks
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    The trick is it can't be done unfortunately. The 8 gig internal memory is called "sdcard" your extrenal 32 gig card is "sdcard2" The 8 gigs of internal memory is partitioned with a section reserved for apps and a section reserved for user storage. moving apps to sd only moves them to the user storage area and not the external card. Seems dumb but that is how it is.

    You can back up apps and move files to sdcard2. esfile explorer works well for this.
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    been discussing this issue all day at lepanlife.com still trying to figure out a way to do it. on the LP1 it works just fine. the problem seems to with honeycomb and internal storage older versions of android called the exterbal card sdcard. honeycomb uses that name for lnternal storage and calls the external card sdcard2. whos lame brain idea was that I would like to know?
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    Google's idea actually. They want manufactures to put a decent amount of storage on board. They nipped a trend of the manufactures in the bud to put only enough internal memory for the OS and then leave it up to the user to by an SD card for any more storage. If the manufactures weren't trying to cheap out and leave no internal memory for apps Google wouldn't have had to respond this way.

    You may ask why it isn't reasonable to let the manufacturers choose to do what they want and let the user get the extra memory if they choose that tablet. Well good question. The problem is that litterally they weren't leaving enough memory on the devices to run a single app with out then having to buy external memory. Imagine how bad it looks when people buy an Android device and can't run a single app. Google gets the blame not the device manufacturer. All that being said the manufacture can by pass this and allow use of the SD card. Le Pan just chose not to make this modification to the OS.
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    so is there any way around this. The Le Pan2 has 8 gigs of internal storage which seems like a reasonable amount but there is actualy only 5.42 gigs available for user storage.
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    Yes, so the ~3GB missing is what is used by the OS the remainder should be able to be used. The problem is you need to have root access then you can change the mount points via adb to make the OS see the external SD card as usable. I din't think any manufacturers were implementing this change but Vizio recently updated their software to Honeycomb and made the change built in through an option in settings. Not sure what other companies might be doing this but most are not.

    It doesn't sound like Le Pan is the most responsive when it comes to software updates but if enough users ask them about it, maybe they will make it an option in a future update.
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    Is the 8gb a micro sd card too? Is it removable? If so can the information from the 8gb be transferred to the 32gb and replace the 8 with the 32?
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    No, you can't replace the internal memory with an SD card.
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    Great posts, J515OP - thanks for clarifying this issue. :)
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    So basically I wasted my money in buying a 32gb micro SD card? If you can't add external memory to the LePan II why did they even bother adding the slot?
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    You should be able to put everything but apps on it. So songs, movies, documents, pictures, pretty much the things that take up the most space.
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    you can use it to store your pictures, videos, movies, backups and other data. i wrote a storage management guide on lepanlife.com i'd post a link but i can't seem to figure out how to do tht here from my tablet.
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    So how do you get the device to recognize it? I tried manually moving them with Windows Explorer while hooked up to my pc and it won't allow me to put anything on it. I tried doing it this way after trying to do it on the LePan II itself and giving up in frustration.....they definitely didn't make it easy to do.
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    Use the File Manager app that comes preinstalled.
    Locate the file that you want to move, Touch and hold it to cut or copy if you want to keep it in both places.
    Then goto where you want to paste it... this being sdcard2 you will see it in the sdcard directory.
    Once you are in the sdcard2 you can paste the file there.
    I tested it with the nature video that came loaded on the tablet and it worked fine.
    Now when I open the Gallery app it shows the sdcard2 with the video there. :
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    I moved files to sd2 using Windows file manager. I just dragged and dropped files fro. One card to another. I also moved files from my computer to my le pan this same way.
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    I have a simular problem with a Digix Tab730 recognizing 26Gig of a 32Gig card I have installed as extra storage. This tablet is suppose to have 4Gig onboard storage and expanded memory of up to 32Gig. When I go to settings/storage I see 2 listings for internal memory (added together they do NOT add up to the supposed 4 Gig). The first one listed seems to hold the "operating" system and the second holds most of the apps according to their color coding and space allocations below each drive. The 32 Gig card shows as "exsdcard" but the size claims to be only 29 Gig. I understand that some of a drive is "allocated" to use by the device, but since this drive does not seem to get accessed by the system why would they "hide" part of it.... or is it that the entire tablet can only recognize the 32 Gig of user space (3Gig internal and 29 Gig external)?

    I have never bothered maxing out the sd cards in any other device I have ever owned so this is all kind of new to me.

    This also raises another question ..... All the posts above refer to Honeycomb as having the issue of not allowing you to save/run apps from the external memory, but what about Android 4.0 ? Was this suppose to be resolved ??

    Like I said I have a Digix Tab730, but it has a charging issue and will soon be replaced by another cheap tablet. Hoping that the new one will not have an issue saving apps to the external memory. Does seem kind of pointless to have the memory available if it won't be able to be used by apps. I had not really planned on using the tablets for much as far as music/movies/pictures. Would much rather have it able to run apps.

    Thanks for any answers you can offer me.... I do understand that this thread is a bit old.
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    As far as the file sizes you are showing those look like normal numbers. Le Pan ll has 8 gb of internal storage but only 5.42 are available for storage.

    No, running apps from the external sdcard (sdcard2) is still not possible on the Le Pan ll running ics. It is possible however on the new Le Pan S and on the tc970.
    I have both lp2 and lp S I think you would be happy with either one. Lp2 runs just a little smoother I think.
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    Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I have the same issue that I bought a 32 SD card to store more apps (for gaming) and I'm quite bummed out that I can't do it. I don't really care about storage things since I stream those with XBMC from my PC.

    Any news on the issue? I have LePan II model with 4.0.4
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    Hi diction. The inability to move apps to sdcard is just an android thing. Its not an issue with the Le Pan ll. There are ways to do it if you are rooted. LePan Life has a new home at LePanForum.com you might find some info there.

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